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    Posted: October-15-2009 at 1:02pm
Hey guys, I started wetsanding the deck of the Ski Tique yesterday and am very happy with the results. I started with 800 then moved to 1000 but have yet to get all the way around the entire deck.

I want to get some materials ordered for the rubbing compound since I can't find anything marine around here. What do you all suggest as my next step?

Go up to 1200 or 1500 or a rubbing compound that cuts 1000grit?

Use 3M?
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Chris,   I would have skipped all the wet sanding and hit it with 3M heavy duty polishing comp. then some 3M Glazing comp.     JMO


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Alan, I was going to but didn't have anything ordered and wanted to get going!

I also had some paint lines like you'd find on a hot rod around the deck so I wanted to get rid of that and see if I could get the color to come back without being able to see those lines.
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Chris, heres what I suggest:

wetsand 800, 1000, 1200

3M Super Duty Compound on a 1" pile wool pad, 2x
3M Perfect-It II Compound on a 1.5" pile wool pad, 1x
3M Finesse-It II Finishing Material (this is a polish) on a wool/acrylic blend polishing pad, 2x
Collinites 925 wax, by hand with a microfiber cloth

I get all my 3M stuff and Lake Country pads from Smart Shoppers. They have the best prices that Ive found and carry everything you'll need, save for the wax (available at Napa or ebay).

You definitely need a good rotary polisher for this stuff. With your fleet Id invest in a Dewalt 849 or the Milwaukee equivalent. If you want more info (part numbers, etc), let me know. This process has worked wonders for every boat Ive used it on.
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Awesome, Thanks Tim. I've got a nice rotary polisher down here, not sure the make or model but I'll get some pics up this afternoon or evening.

Did you get anything in the mail yet Tim? Should be there soon if not.
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Chris, I had you send it to my parents house- will be back there this weekend. Thanks again!

On the rotary polisher, just make sure it is a variable speed, or at least can spin in the 2000 RPM range. Thats about where you need it to work for the 3 products listed above. One more thing- you'll need a backing plate to match the style of pads youre using. All of my stuff is hook and loop (velcro).
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That sounds exactly like what I've got. I'll get some stuff ordered today!

I still can believe how much of a difference there is between the stuff I've wetsanded thus far!
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Originally posted by DrCC DrCC wrote:

Chris,   I would have skipped all the wet sanding and hit it with 3M heavy duty polishing comp. then some 3M Glazing comp.     JMO


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I tried taking the easy route like you're suggesting, since my gel wasn't in terrible shape at all, just light oxidation. But I've got to disagree with this, after I finished the compound just didn't cut thru the oxidized layer enough. Definitely hit it with some wetsanding, as I will be doing later.

And I have also ordered from Smartshoppersinc like Tim posted, very good company, and they shipped extremely fast, pleasure to do business with them. No online ordering however, just give them a call and they'll hook you up
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regarding wet sanding, what type of sanding block do you guys use??
As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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Nick,
On flat surfaces I always use a hard bloc. It can be a simple block of wood. You'll get better leveling with it in case there are some minor high spots in the gel. Inside radius's I will still use a hard block. I have varying sizes of wood dowel rods. Outside radius's are the only place I may use a rubber block but I find just my hand and palm work good too.


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if you can afford it, use a DA with Hook-it sanding discs, and gradually work up to 1500 grit, use soap in the bucket or a spray bottle with the water and soap mixed
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If your going to spend the money on a DA, buy a hutchins. By far the best out there for finish work. IMHO
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have 2 in the collection and your on the money, hutchins are second to none
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Did the same sort of process back in the spring on my Supra. I started with 1000 grit on the wetsand, then followed almost exactly what TRBenj listed (except I used a different wax). All good products and a god process. Mine was pretty heavily oxidized and it came out really good when it was all done. Let me know if you want to see pictures for inspiration ;-)
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I have 1 with the handle on, 1 with the handle off... 2 DA's are better than 1.
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Andy, i bought one new in the box for 20 bucks. alot of guy's walk in selling stuff....but your right, i took the handle off one of them and like using it that way.....do you have a mud hog?
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Sure do! Ever light bondo dust on fire in front of someone that has no clue? Hehe. I used to have the Hutchins Hustler, but I think I grew legs. Since I'm now a plumber, I haven't needed to replace it. You a gravity fed guy? 20 bucks. You oughtta be slapped for taking advantage of the mentally incompetant. Ever use dx 55 for heavy buffing?
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my family has always owned Bodyshops and i grew up around them, never took much interest though and went more towards the greasy side. we use guns now that are like baby bottles with a plastic liner, no waste and very little cleaning. Also the paint companies are switching to water base believe it or not to shoot cars, we have a mix station and a blackhawk? drive on to yank.
bodywork gives me incentive to get my own work so i dont have to do bodywork lol. my 21 year old nephew has it in his blood, he can lay down the paint
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I've had to use the waterbased stuff a few times. I still get to play in the booth from time to time. I've got a few good friends with shops.
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crappy pic, but I still had fun.
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nice... i thought it was a bike fender at first, then at a closer look i realized it was a mail box. you better lag bolt that one down
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he was 20 when he did this one
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

my 21 year old nephew has it in his blood


Hopefully the new water based paints will keep the solvent out of his blood, unlike the isocyanate enamels I used to use!
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it stinks so bad you have to wear a mask lol
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And I have also ordered from Smartshoppersinc like Tim posted, very good company, and they shipped extremely fast, pleasure to do business with them. No online ordering however, just give them a call and they'll hook you up [/QUOTE]

I've ordered several items from here good prices and quick shipping.
Best price on 303 fabric guard and collinite that I've found.
They also have pads and polishers.
http://www.autogeek.net/boatandrv.html
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along with lighting bondo dust, we'll sneak behind someone and fill a styrofoam cup with oxy acetylene and hit it with the torch. m-80 worth of noise. guys use to fill garbage bags full and tie a rope to it and light the rope...those woold rattle the windows.
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Does anyone know of a site that explains the differences between all the 3M products? Im having a hard time working out which is best, lots of sites sell different model numbers and have slightly different wording, for example ive got 3M finesse it finishing material, is this the same as finesse it II finishing material? Are there different types of finishing material, whats the difference between finesse-it and perfect-it? Also do i need to spray water to keep it from burning or is that just for when compounding?
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use, 3m perfect-it 3000, part number 06063 rubbing compound...you wont go wrong
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Thanks, im limited to what my local shop carries, which is not a lot, and can only find different types online in the uk, and with postage ends up being very expensive. I was hoping to find a chart or something detailing the entire product range so i can see if what my local shop carries is worth buying. All the bottles seem to say roughly the same thing but with slightly different wording and differeent part numbers.They dont carry the finesse it II, only the finesse it, and i wondered what the difference was. I will check and see if they have the perfect it 3000. Is there really that much difference between all the similar products?
I would like to use 3M stuff because of all the good reviews about it here, but it seems like its is not as widely used here in the uk.
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Peter have a look at this link, its not 3M I have found its easier to use less smeary than 3M so quicker with a sharper shine.
Give them a call to see who sells it near you.
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